User talk:Fxc

Carrier Support

Can you please explain why you keep removing my additions to PinePhone_Carrier_Support -- Mike 02:22:09 29 April 2021 (UTC)

You keep adding your provider in the wrong section. You want to add it in the section "Tested and working" but you keep adding it to the section "Does not work / special notes". Regards --Fxc (talk) 12:13, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! I added it to PinePhone_Carrier_Support#North_America -- Mike 17:09:09 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Discussion on what to do with the Rock64 page

Hi, I'm asking you about this since you seem to be one of the more active contributors of the wiki.

I recently noticed that there are two ROCK64 pages, one is ROCK64, the other is Rock64. They seem to duplicate a lot of information, and the latter appears to contain a large list of links already covered in the software releases page.

What should be done about this? Should we delete Rock64 and make it a redirect? --CounterPillow (talk) 19:20, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

For now I've decided to make it a redirect, upon seeing that the user who created it also created other pages which were just carbon copies of the respective actual pages at the time. Maybe some spam thing? --CounterPillow (talk) 06:24, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Yup, I would have recommended a redirect too. The SBC articles and especially their naming is quite chaotic so (radically) cleaning up the wiki and finding a better structure between different articles is something which has to be done sooner or later anyway. --Fxc (talk) 12:38, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Re: Your edits in PinePhone

Good day, Fxc! Thank you very much for your help in moving my recent edits to their more suitable places: this stuff took me plenty of time to figure out & test, and hopefully our work could be valuable to the fellow PinePhone users.

Unfortunately, I noticed that "IMEI check and change" has been reverted for the reason "Illegal wiki contents removed". Please tell, "illegal" - in what country? I.e. PINE64 is a Hong Kong company, while a Pine64 wiki website is hosted in Slovakia, - and I can't any info that changing IMEI in either Hong Kong or Slovakia is illegal, or at least posting the "how-to" information about this. And what isn't forbidden - is allowed. For the majority of countries (not taking some totalitarian ones into account), changing IMEI is as legal as changing the MAC address which has been allowed to stay.

Since a "pinephone change imei" seems to be a popular Google request (it's even more popular than "pinephone change os"), I'd like to preserve this information for the public usage. If, to be able to do that, I need to re-word/extend the warning about the possible legal issues (something like "please check the laws of your country before doing that") - please let me know.

At the same time I understand this advanced information is probably not suitable for the main PinePhone page. Please tell what's the more appropriate place in your opinion - PineModems, PinePhone_Software_Tweaks or PinePhone_FAQ#Modem ?

Please don't re-add information regarding the IMEI on the wiki. Regarding software information: there is currently no place for it, PinePhone Software Tweaks was a quick idea - if you have other ideas feel free! The PineModems article is more on the hardware side of different modems and in the FAQ it would probably fit but that article isn't read very often. --Fxc (talk) 21:46, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Removing the addition about battery

Hello all,

I think it was not so good to remove the section, explaining how exactly one could get a good replacement battery and make it fit into PP without any difficulties. Because this is actually a problem: there are any replacement battries and fitting the J7 battery into the PP without filing it could result in a broken phone.

ref: https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php?title=PinePhone&diff=15200&oldid=15102 --Pptester (talk) 14:16, 13 January 2023‎ (UTC)

Said section doesn't fit the quality requirements of the rest of the page, as written in the edit note. There are multiple issues here. The newer PinePhone revisions have a bigger battery compartment for the plastic tabs on some batteries (the ones which are deemed incompatible due to the size in the battery paragraph). The paragraph is telling users to use a sharp object on batteries, which is a big no no. People can do that on their personal items but telling users to do so without sufficient warnings (colors, specialized templates PRIOR the instructions) is a red flag. The wiki also tries to be OS-agnostic as much as possible, which the commands are not. The same is the problem for random systemd service files, while distributions are not shipped with systemd - and a systemd service file isn't even the right solution anyway, it's a cheap workaround for not knowing the proper solution to apply sysfs changes permanently. --Fxc (talk) 14:38, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Request to involve Manual of style

Hello, I have noticed from the histories that you are a very active wiki editor and I would like to announce my new initiative, Help:Manual of style. It's important, because there are many articles to go through, to improve and to "standardize", but before that we need to create some kind of guide for these. --Tree (talk) 15:48, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I don't agree with this assessment, we're not Wikipedia and only a small number of contributors. What the wiki needs at least is a new user account telling people to do what they think seems appropriate with zero consensus - and even less a surplus of meta discussion contribution instead of actual contributions to wiki pages. For your personal drafts please use your userspace (for example under https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/User:Tree/Manual_of_style). If the drafts are in a good state and there no concerns we can move them. Mind that copying whole articles removes the submission history, which is usually undesirable if preventable. The Pinecil article is also not the prime example. Regards, --Fxc (talk) 15:50, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Of course, the intention is not to make a huge manual similar to Wikipedia... however, that doesn't mean we can't make some guidelines. At least, it would be necessary to make a manual about the structures and general formatting. You could have expected that others would also add their opinions to the discussion page. I don't think the age of the contributer matters if the edits are good. --Tree

The edits are not good, you've only spammed links today and then you want to create a style manual in main space and pushing back and forth. Please stop creating new accounts and re-creating pages which were just moved, you're wasting your own and everybody else's time. If you're under the influence of any substance because it is Friday please push back any planned edits to another day. --Fxc (talk) 16:22, 13 January 2023 (UTC)