https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php?title=Pinecil_Power_Supplies&feed=atom&action=historyPinecil Power Supplies - Revision history2024-03-29T11:10:21ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.37.1https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php?title=Pinecil_Power_Supplies&diff=19721&oldid=prevRiver: /* Tool Batteries 18V-21V */2023-06-04T20:04:25Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Tool Batteries 18V-21V</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://www.amazon.com/Hobbypark-Connector-Soldering-Outdoor-Repairing/dp/B08LKY5DBX DC5525 pigtail] (keep the XT60 connector or cut it off)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://www.amazon.com/Hobbypark-Connector-Soldering-Outdoor-Repairing/dp/B08LKY5DBX DC5525 pigtail] (keep the XT60 connector or cut it off)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* Some people print their own 3D adapters for tool batteries.</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">** Must use a 5.5mm x 2.5 mm DC barrel Plug. Forcing an an incorrect size, i.e., DC 5521 will break [https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=13237 the connector as seen here] (if it doesn't go in, it doesn't fit).</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* If you use a random DC barrel charger, first Check the Polarity of the plug to make sure it is Center Positive before using it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DBTNplNTfA (how to check polarity)]. Using reverse polarity DC plug will destroy the Pinecil.</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Get a Power Wheels Adapter [https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B09GXBJMNF like this for Ryobi], then splice/connect it to a DC5525 Pigtail to complete connection to Pinecil.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Get a Power Wheels Adapter [https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B09GXBJMNF like this for Ryobi], then splice/connect it to a DC5525 Pigtail to complete connection to Pinecil.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** Other kinds of [https://smile.amazon.com/stores/page/F3CF7FFA-3021-4014-AA81-E214F6F7CEDC?ingress=0&visitId=485f97ee-6a92-43e8-aaef-479873fccd6f Power-Wheels Adapters here] (Ridgid, Milwaukee, Makita, etc).</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** Other kinds of [https://smile.amazon.com/stores/page/F3CF7FFA-3021-4014-AA81-E214F6F7CEDC?ingress=0&visitId=485f97ee-6a92-43e8-aaef-479873fccd6f Power-Wheels Adapters here] (Ridgid, Milwaukee, Makita, etc).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* If you use a random DC barrel charger, first Check the Polarity of the plug to make sure it is Center Positive before using it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DBTNplNTfA (how to check polarity)]. Using reverse polarity DC plug will destroy the Pinecil.</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* To prevent battery overdrain, add this Pinecil setting which works for all the 18-21V tool batteries typical for Dewalt, etc.. Some tool brands have the overdrain protection already; it doesn't hurt to also set this in Pinecil or in case you don't know if your brand/type has it or not. <code> Power source = 5S, Minimum Voltage = 3.3V </code></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* To prevent battery overdrain, add this Pinecil setting which works for all the 18-21V tool batteries typical for Dewalt, etc.. Some tool brands have the overdrain protection already; it doesn't hurt to also set this in Pinecil or in case you don't know if your brand/type has it or not. <code> Power source = 5S, Minimum Voltage = 3.3V </code></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Hint: only if you change to a different size battery do you need to alter this. If you only ever switch between a USB-C charger and the tool battery, you could just leave the 5S/3.3V setting. Overdrain means using the battery past the point where you can charge it again. Many tool batteries have internal protection to prevents this, but some brands don't have it (unfortunately, unlike most brands, Dewalt puts it into the tool & not the battery). Setting it in Pinecil is an extra safety setting in case you are not sure and want to preserve batteries.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Hint: only if you change to a different size battery do you need to alter this. If you only ever switch between a USB-C charger and the tool battery, you could just leave the 5S/3.3V setting. Overdrain means using the battery past the point where you can charge it again. Many tool batteries have internal protection to prevents this, but some brands don't have it (unfortunately, unlike most brands, Dewalt puts it into the tool & not the battery). Setting it in Pinecil is an extra safety setting in case you are not sure and want to preserve batteries.</div></td></tr>
</table>Riverhttps://wiki.pine64.org/index.php?title=Pinecil_Power_Supplies&diff=19677&oldid=prevRiver: /* Tool Batteries 18V-21V */ typo2023-05-27T19:03:08Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Tool Batteries 18V-21V: </span> typo</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Center-Positive </del>Nintendo Switch AC Adapter <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(</del>USB-C <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">wall-wart) </del>(PD@15V). Does not work well on V2 (needs 3+amps). Works on V1, but slower heat speed because it's low amps and only 15V. Not all Nintendo brand chargers are USB-C type. Some have a DC barrel plug with an incorrect center pin positive, see notes/photo above for checking any DC barrel power supply before plugging it into Pinecil. Reverse polarity chargers will break electronics as they were made to only be used with specific equipment they were sold with. This is one added danger of using unknown/untested DC barrel jack charger over a USB-C charger.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Nintendo Switch AC Adapter USB-C (PD@15V). Does not work well on V2 (needs 3+amps). Works on V1, but slower heat speed because it's low amps and only 15V. Not all Nintendo brand chargers are USB-C type. Some have a DC barrel plug with an incorrect center pin positive, see notes/photo above for checking any DC barrel power supply before plugging it into Pinecil. Reverse polarity chargers will break electronics as they were made to only be used with specific equipment they were sold with. This is one added danger of using unknown/untested DC barrel jack charger over a USB-C charger.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Riverhttps://wiki.pine64.org/index.php?title=Pinecil_Power_Supplies&diff=19676&oldid=prevRiver: /* Tool Batteries 18V-21V */2023-05-27T19:02:28Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Tool Batteries 18V-21V</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Center-Positive Nintendo Switch AC Adapter (USB-C wall-wart) (PD@15V). Does not work well on V2 (needs 3+amps). Works on V1, but slower heat speed because it's low amps and only 15V. Not all Nintendo brand chargers have a plug with center pin positive, see notes/photo above for checking any DC barrel power supply before plugging it into Pinecil <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">as reverse </del>polarity chargers will break electronics as they were made to only be used with specific equipment they were sold with. This is one added danger of using unknown/untested DC barrel jack charger over a USB-C charger.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Center-Positive Nintendo Switch AC Adapter (USB-C wall-wart) (PD@15V). Does not work well on V2 (needs 3+amps). Works on V1, but slower heat speed because it's low amps and only 15V. Not all Nintendo brand chargers <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">are USB-C type. Some </ins>have a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">DC barrel </ins>plug with <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">an incorrect </ins>center pin positive, see notes/photo above for checking any DC barrel power supply before plugging it into Pinecil<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. Reverse </ins>polarity chargers will break electronics as they were made to only be used with specific equipment they were sold with. This is one added danger of using unknown/untested DC barrel jack charger over a USB-C charger.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Riverhttps://wiki.pine64.org/index.php?title=Pinecil_Power_Supplies&diff=19675&oldid=prevRiver: /* Tool Batteries 18V-21V */2023-05-27T19:00:21Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Tool Batteries 18V-21V</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Nintendo Switch AC Adapter (USB-C wall-wart) (PD@15V). Does not work well on V2 (needs 3+amps). Works on V1, but slower heat speed because it's low amps and only 15V.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Center-Positive </ins>Nintendo Switch AC Adapter (USB-C wall-wart) (PD@15V). Does not work well on V2 (needs 3+amps). Works on V1, but slower heat speed because it's low amps and only 15V<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. Not all Nintendo brand chargers have a plug with center pin positive, see notes/photo above for checking any DC barrel power supply before plugging it into Pinecil as reverse polarity chargers will break electronics as they were made to only be used with specific equipment they were sold with. This is one added danger of using unknown/untested DC barrel jack charger over a USB-C charger</ins>.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Riverhttps://wiki.pine64.org/index.php?title=Pinecil_Power_Supplies&diff=19674&oldid=prevRiver: /* Cables, Chargers, Batteries */2023-05-27T18:41:30Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Cables, Chargers, Batteries</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** [https://www.inter9ers.com/promotions certified 240W/40Gbps], highest USB-IF data speed, 40Gbps, USB 4 Gen3. Pinecil does not need high data speed which is more useful for data transfer <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and </del>quality laptop to monitor connections. The <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">lowest </del>USB2 (480mb/s) <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">data speed </del>is enough for Pinecil Firmware updates (all USB-C to C cables typically come with at least USB2 = 480mb/s data speed). Higher data speed cables work great for firmware updates, but <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">it </del>will be a thicker cable which may make soldering and hand movement a little harder<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. USB-C to C cables have two important ratings, one is for the power, e.g. 240w/48V/5amps (PD 3.1) and the other rating is not related to power at all and refers to data speed for data transfer such as USB4 (40G) or lower USB2 (480 mb/s = 0.48G)</del>. There is a noticeable difference in the thickness of cables due to the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">many </del>extra wires <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">needed </del>for 20G or 40G cables.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** [https://www.inter9ers.com/promotions certified 240W/40Gbps], highest USB-IF data speed, 40Gbps, USB 4 Gen3<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">.</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* USB-C to C cables have two important ratings: one rating is for the power, e.g. 240w/48V/5amps (PD 3.1) and the other rating is not related to power at all and refers to data speed for data transfer (USB4.0 or USB2.0). Faster USB4 is 40G and slower USB2 is 480 mb/s = 0.48G</ins>. Pinecil does not need high data speed which is more useful for data transfer <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">between devices or </ins>quality laptop to monitor connections. The <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">lower </ins>USB2 (480mb/s) is enough for Pinecil Firmware updates (all USB-C to C cables typically come with at least <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">minimum </ins>USB2 = 480mb/s data speed). Higher data speed cables work great for firmware updates, but will be a thicker cable which may make soldering and hand movement a little harder. There is a noticeable difference in the thickness of cables due to the extra wires <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and specs </ins>for 20G or 40G <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">type </ins>cables.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Riverhttps://wiki.pine64.org/index.php?title=Pinecil_Power_Supplies&diff=19673&oldid=prevRiver: /* Power Options for Pinecil */2023-05-27T18:31:47Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Power Options for Pinecil</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># QC3.0 phone chargers: not recommended, it is weaker in power and does not auto-negotiate like USB-C PD does. QC3 requires manually setting the voltage in the Power settings. A minimum of 3 amps is needed and many QC phone chargers are only able to provide a low 12V 1.5amp, limiting Pinecil to about 17W of thermal capability which is weak and slow. It may not even start to heat, but if it does, it may get repeated <code>Thermal Runaway</code> message (this means the weak power causes Pinecil to auto-shutdown continuously).</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># QC3.0 phone chargers: not recommended, it is weaker in power and does not auto-negotiate like USB-C PD does. QC3 requires manually setting the voltage in the Power settings. A minimum of 3 amps is needed and many QC phone chargers are only able to provide a low 12V 1.5amp, limiting Pinecil to about 17W of thermal capability which is weak and slow. It may not even start to heat, but if it does, it may get repeated <code>Thermal Runaway</code> message (this means the weak power causes Pinecil to auto-shutdown continuously).</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># QC is more problematic for V2 which comes with the Pine64 designed shorter 6.2 ohm resistance tip. This means the V2 needs more power than the V1. Switching to the longer traditional ts100 style tip in V2 would reduce the power requirement a little, but then you lose a small amount of heat speed/performance.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># QC is more problematic for V2 which comes with the Pine64 designed shorter 6.2 ohm resistance tip. This means the V2 needs more power than the V1. Switching to the longer traditional ts100 style tip in V2 would reduce the power requirement a little, but then you lose a small amount of heat speed/performance.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Riverhttps://wiki.pine64.org/index.php?title=Pinecil_Power_Supplies&diff=19672&oldid=prevRiver: /* USB-C Cables */2023-05-27T18:30:27Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">USB-C Cables</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** [https://www.inter9ers.com/promotions certified 240W/40Gbps]<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, coupon $25 off</del>, highest USB-IF data speed, 40Gbps, USB 4 Gen3</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** [https://www.inter9ers.com/promotions certified 240W/40Gbps], highest USB-IF data speed, 40Gbps, USB 4 Gen3<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. Pinecil does not need high data speed which is more useful for data transfer and quality laptop to monitor connections. The lowest USB2 (480mb/s) data speed </ins>is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">enough for Pinecil Firmware updates (all USB-C to C cables typically come with at least USB2 = 480mb/s data speed). Higher data speed cables work great for firmware updates, but it will be a thicker cable which may make soldering and hand movement a little harder. USB-C to C cables have two important ratings</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">one is for </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">power, e.g. 240w/48V/5amps (PD 3.1) and </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">other rating is not related to power at </ins>all <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and refers </ins>to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">data speed for data transfer such as USB4 (40G) or lower USB2 (480 mb/s = 0.48G). There is a noticeable difference in </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">thickness </ins>of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">cables due </ins>to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the many extra wires needed for 20G or 40G cables</ins>.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Riverhttps://wiki.pine64.org/index.php?title=Pinecil_Power_Supplies&diff=19670&oldid=prevRiver: /* Power Options for Pinecil */ typo2023-05-27T17:57:46Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Power Options for Pinecil: </span> typo</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># QC3.0 phone chargers: not recommended, it is weaker in power and does not auto-negotiate like USB-C PD does. QC3 requires manually setting the voltage in the Power settings. A minimum of 3 amps is needed and many QC phone chargers are only able to provide a low 12V 1.5amp, limiting Pinecil to about 17W of thermal capability which is weak and slow. It may not even start to heat, but if it does, it may get repeated <code>Thermal Runaway</code> message (this means the weak power causes Pinecil to auto-shutdown continuously).</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># QC3.0 phone chargers: not recommended, it is weaker in power and does not auto-negotiate like USB-C PD does. QC3 requires manually setting the voltage in the Power settings. A minimum of 3 amps is needed and many QC phone chargers are only able to provide a low 12V 1.5amp, limiting Pinecil to about 17W of thermal capability which is weak and slow. It may not even start to heat, but if it does, it may get repeated <code>Thermal Runaway</code> message (this means the weak power causes Pinecil to auto-shutdown continuously).</div></td></tr>
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</table>OneTwoThreehttps://wiki.pine64.org/index.php?title=Pinecil_Power_Supplies&diff=19329&oldid=prevRiver: /* EPR PD3.1, 140W Chargers */2023-04-07T18:11:30Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">EPR PD3.1, 140W Chargers</span></span></p>
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