User:CounterPillow/Pinebook-Next - Revision history

CounterPillow: /* Other Features */

2023-05-02T08:24:44Z

Other Features

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	== Other Features ==		== Other Features ==

	* CSI Webcam with hardware kill switch or built in slide cover. If too expensive, just leave out.		* CSI Webcam with hardware kill switch or built in slide cover. If too expensive, just leave out the camera entirely.
	* Built-in microphone with hardware kill switch. If too complex, just leave out.		* Built-in microphone with hardware kill switch. If too complex, just leave out the mic entirely.
	* 1920x1080 eDP IPS display		* 1920x1080 eDP IPS display
	* SPI flash (128Mbit)		* SPI flash (128Mbit)

CounterPillow at 14:50, 1 May 2023

2023-05-01T14:50:47Z

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	=== PCIe 2.1 x1/SATA #2 ===		=== PCIe 2.1 x1/SATA #2 ===

	As PCIe2 on M.2 A/E-key slot for Wi-Fi modules.		As PCIe2 on M.2 A/E-key slot for Wi-Fi modules. If E-key doesn't actually require two PCIe 2.1 signals (I didn't read the standard, just going by what Wikipedia says), this could be used for a Realtek RTL8125 2.5G ethernet controller instead.

	=== PCIe 2.1 x1/SATA #3 ===		=== PCIe 2.1 x1/SATA #3 ===

CounterPillow: /* PCIe Assignments */

2023-05-01T14:15:28Z

PCIe Assignments

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	Assigned to an M.2 M-key "storage" slot inside the laptop. M.2 slot should provide at least 10W of power (3A at 3.3V).		Assigned to an M.2 M-key "storage" slot inside the laptop. M.2 slot should provide at least 10W of power (3A at 3.3V).

	=== PCIe 2.1 x1/SATA ~~Nr.~~ 1 ===		=== PCIe 2.1 x1/SATA #1 ===

	As PCIe2 on M.2 A/E-key slot for Wi-Fi modules.		As PCIe2 on M.2 A/E-key slot for Wi-Fi modules.

	=== PCIe 2.1 x1/SATA ~~Nr.~~ 2 ===		=== PCIe 2.1 x1/SATA #2 ===

	As PCIe2 on M.2 A/E-key slot for Wi-Fi modules.		As PCIe2 on M.2 A/E-key slot for Wi-Fi modules.

	=== PCIe 2.1 x1/SATA ~~Nr.~~ 3 ===		=== PCIe 2.1 x1/SATA #3 ===

	As PCIe2 to USB3 (xHCI) controller chip, adding 2 or 3 USB3 Type A ports. e.g. Renesas UPD720202, but any other xHCI controller will do		As PCIe2 to USB3 (xHCI) controller chip, adding 2 or 3 USB3 Type A ports. e.g. Renesas UPD720202, but any other xHCI controller will do

CounterPillow: /* PCIe 2.1 x1/SATA Nr. 3 */

2023-05-01T13:10:46Z

PCIe 2.1 x1/SATA Nr. 3

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	=== PCIe 2.1 x1/SATA Nr. 3 ===		=== PCIe 2.1 x1/SATA Nr. 3 ===

	As PCIe2 to USB3 (xHCI) controller chip, adding 2 or 3 USB3 Type A ports.		As PCIe2 to USB3 (xHCI) controller chip, adding 2 or 3 USB3 Type A ports. e.g. Renesas UPD720202, but any other xHCI controller will do

	== USB Assignments ==		== USB Assignments ==

CounterPillow: some daydreaming

2023-05-01T13:04:16Z

some daydreaming

New page

{{note|'''Note:''' This is '''not''' about an official PINE64 product, whether in development or not. It's merely the proposal by one community user.}}

This page documents my proposal for how a RK3588-based Pinebook Pro successor could look like, considering the features of the SoC and what I'd like to see changed from the PbP.

== Basic Specs ==

RK3588 based, either 8GB or 16GB of RAM. Price point: <$500?

General idea is to provide NVMe storage as an easy upgrade option by default (no extra cables needed), and the ability to add a "standard" more expensive Wi-Fi module (or maybe use this as the default Wi-Fi module? Something with mainline drivers PLEASE).

4 to 5 USB ports (2 Type-C, 2 to 3 Type-A through PCIe controller)

== PCIe Assignments ==

=== PCIe 3.0 x4 ===

Assigned to an M.2 M-key "storage" slot inside the laptop. M.2 slot should provide at least 10W of power (3A at 3.3V).

=== PCIe 2.1 x1/SATA Nr. 1 ===

As PCIe2 on M.2 A/E-key slot for Wi-Fi modules.

=== PCIe 2.1 x1/SATA Nr. 2 ===

As PCIe2 on M.2 A/E-key slot for Wi-Fi modules.

=== PCIe 2.1 x1/SATA Nr. 3 ===

As PCIe2 to USB3 (xHCI) controller chip, adding 2 or 3 USB3 Type A ports.

== USB Assignments ==

=== USB OTG0 ===

As USB3 Type C with PD charging. Port on a separate board (field replaceable unit, FRU) for easy repair should USB-C port fail. Also with DP support.

=== USB OTG1 ===

As USB3 Type C. If possible also PD charging and DP. (Rockchip datasheet seems to indicate DP is possible on both USB3 ports at least)

=== USB Host0 2.0 ===

Used in Wi-Fi M.2 slot.

=== USB Host1 2.0 ===

Used for internal keyboard.

== Other Connectors ==

* Usual eMMC module connector but mount the eMMC module with a thermal pad between the two PCBs to help stability and thermal transfer. I've noticed it helps a lot on my SBCs to use a thermal pad below the eMMC module.
* microSD slot
* 3.5mm headphone jack with mic input
* 1x Gigabit Ethernet
* 1x HDMI out

== Other Features ==

* CSI Webcam with hardware kill switch or built in slide cover. If too expensive, just leave out.
* Built-in microphone with hardware kill switch. If too complex, just leave out.
* 1920x1080 eDP IPS display
* SPI flash (128Mbit)
* '''EASY TO OPEN CASE, just a bunch of screws, please no plastic snaps'''
* Better touchpad than on the PBP (big complaint I've heard of users)
* UART debug output somehow, either headphone jack or preferably over USB-C alt mode
* Speakers (use external mute on amp to avoid popping, another big complaint)

== When? ==

The following things need to happen first before a consumer RK3588 product should be considered:
* mainline Linux + Mesa have support for the GPU
* mainline Linux has support for the video output
* mainline Linux has cpufreq support for reclocking
* '''QuartzPro64 release here?'''
* mainline Linux has support for the eDP PHY and eDP controller

== Remaining Questions ==

=== Cooling ===

Can cooling be passive or should it be active? Especially consider with hot SSD inserted. Probably active with blower fan just to be safe?

=== Wi-Fi ===

Is using an M.2 Wi-Fi module possible within this price point? Would be a big quality upgrade.

=== Audio Output ===

How do we best avoid noise and popping on the audio output? Do we need an external audio mute chip (see e.g. [https://www.ti.com/audio-ic/interface/audio-switches/products.html] for Ti's portfolio) or does the amp/DAC already have a mute we can trigger? Maybe experiment with designs on QuartzPro64. Consider ground return paths in PCB designs.

=== Type-C PD ===

Type-C PD is complex. Configure it such that the laptop charges a phone, but that a power bank charges the laptop.