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	== Checking whether the MCU and main power rails are alive ==		== Checking whether the MCU and main power rails are alive ==
	- DFU mode REDACTED		- DFU mode REDACTED

			[[Category:Pinecil]]

RBLindahl at 22:54, 15 April 2022

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	This page is work-in-progress and is user-contributed content.		This page is work-in-progress and is user-contributed content.

	= ~~Problems possible~~ =		{\| class="wikitable" style="margin:auto"
			\|-
	== Pinecil doesn't power on at all ==		! Issue !! Cause/Symptoms !! Possible Solutions
	# Check your PSU - ~~it might be faulty~~		\|-
	# Check cable		\|rowspan="3"\|Pinecil doesn't power on at all
	# Use different kind of PSU (if you're using a barrel jack one, try a Type-C one, and vice-versa)		\|Faulty PSU
			\|Check your PSU with another tool or a multimeter
	== Pinecil shuts down when connected to a Type-C PSU and trying to request a higher voltage ==		\|-
	Title needs a bit more clarification		\|Faulty cable
			\|
	Update firmware - factory firmware has quite a few USB-PD problems, which the newer firmwares fix. See the [https://github.com/Ralim/IronOS/blob/master/Documentation/Flashing.md#pinecil-pine64 update documentation on GitHub]		* Check cable with another device
			* Use a different cable
	== Pinecil randomly resets when touching solder or doing other things ==		\|-
	- Using PinePower or some other non-grounded PSU?		\|Internal problem with power
	- This is likely to be a "lack of grounding" problem. When using Pinepower, you can unplug the figure-8 AC cable plug (on the back), rotate it 180 degrees and plug it back in - this tends to remedy the problem [https://github.com/Ralim/IronOS/issues/975 (insights)]		\|Use different kind of PSU (if you're using a barrel jack one, try a Type-C one, and vice-versa)
			\|-
	== Doesn't power on after applying 24V to the barrel jack ==		\| Pinecil shuts down when connected to a Type-C PSU and trying to request a higher voltage (Title needs a bit more clarification)
	- The FUSB302 might have gotten damaged and shorted an internal power rail		\|Out-of-date firmware
	~~- Fix is to use~~ a hot air gun to remove the FUSB from the board. You can leave the iron without the FUSB302 IC, or you can find and buy a replacement.		\|Update firmware - factory firmware has quite a few USB-PD problems, which the newer firmwares fix. See the [https://github.com/Ralim/IronOS/blob/master/Documentation/Flashing.md#pinecil-pine64 update documentation on GitHub]
	- Without the FUSB IC present, you will lose USB-PD compatibility - the Type-C jack will not power your Pinecil with a C-to-C cable, or from a PD-capable PSU with attached type-C cable (laptop PSUs)		\|-
	- You will still have USB QC support without the FUSB IC, and all the other features will keep working!		\| Pinecil randomly resets when touching solder or doing other things
			\| Using PinePower or some other non-grounded PSU
	== Pinecil tip heats up too much, starts to glow and [REDACTED] ==		\|This is likely to be a "lack of grounding" problem. When using Pinepower, you can unplug the figure-8 AC cable plug (on the back), rotate it 180 degrees and plug it back in - this tends to remedy the problem [https://github.com/Ralim/IronOS/issues/975 (insights)]
	~~If you don't press the + button after plugging power~~ in, ~~does it start glowing?~~		\|-
	~~- If it heats up as soon as you connect power (without button presses), then it's likely~~ a FET failure - the FET can be replaced. by using a hot air station or a soldering iron.		\| Doesn't power on after applying 24V to the barrel jack
	- ~~If it only heats~~ up after pressing the button~~, this is likely~~ to be bad soldering of the thermocouple amplifier IC ~~caused such behaviour~~. Resoldering the thermocouple amplifier ~~shoudl~~ fix this problem.		\|Damaged USB chip
	~~You~~ will want to replace the tip after it's heated up to the point of glowing, as the surface coating is likely to have gotten compromised.		\|The FUSB302 might have gotten damaged and shorted an internal power rail
			* Use a hot air gun to remove the FUSB from the board. You can leave the iron without the FUSB302 IC, or you can find and buy a replacement.
			* Without the FUSB IC present, you will lose USB-PD compatibility - the Type-C jack will not power your Pinecil with a C-to-C cable, or from a PD-capable PSU with attached type-C cable (laptop PSUs)
			* You will still have USB QC support without the FUSB IC, and all the other features will keep working!
			\|-
			\|rowspan="3"\|Pinecil tip heats up too much, starts to glow and [REDACTED]
			\| Heats up when plugged in, without pressing any buttons
			\| Likely a FET failure - the FET can be replaced. by using a hot air station or a soldering iron.
			\|-
			\| Heats up after pressing the button
			\| Likely to be bad soldering of the thermocouple amplifier IC. Resoldering the thermocouple amplifier should fix this problem.
			\|-
			\|colspan="2"\| '''Either way, you will want to replace the tip after it's heated up to the point of glowing, as the surface coating is likely to have gotten compromised.'''
			\|}

	= Debugging instructions =		= Debugging instructions =

RBLindahl: /* Pinecil shuts down when connected to a Type-C PSU and trying to request a higher voltage */

2022-04-04T21:29:50Z

Pinecil shuts down when connected to a Type-C PSU and trying to request a higher voltage

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	== Pinecil shuts down when connected to a Type-C PSU and trying to request a higher voltage ==		== Pinecil shuts down when connected to a Type-C PSU and trying to request a higher voltage ==
	Title needs a bit more clarification		Title needs a bit more clarification
	- Update firmware - factory firmware has quite a few USB-PD problems, which the newer firmwares fix
			Update firmware - factory firmware has quite a few USB-PD problems, which the newer firmwares fix. See the [https://github.com/Ralim/IronOS/blob/master/Documentation/Flashing.md#pinecil-pine64 update documentation on GitHub]

	== Pinecil randomly resets when touching solder or doing other things ==		== Pinecil randomly resets when touching solder or doing other things ==

RBLindahl: /* Pinecil doesn't power on at all */

2022-04-04T21:17:17Z

Pinecil doesn't power on at all

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	== Pinecil doesn't power on at all ==		== Pinecil doesn't power on at all ==
	# Check your PSU - it might be faulty		# Check your PSU - it might be faulty
	# Check cable		# Check cable
	# Use different kind of PSU (if you're using a barrel jack one, try a Type-C one, and vice-versa)		# Use different kind of PSU (if you're using a barrel jack one, try a Type-C one, and vice-versa)

	== Pinecil shuts down when connected to a Type-C PSU and trying to request a higher voltage ==		== Pinecil shuts down when connected to a Type-C PSU and trying to request a higher voltage ==

RBLindahl: /* Pinecil doesn't power on at all */

2022-04-04T21:14:47Z

Pinecil doesn't power on at all

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	== Pinecil doesn't power on at all ==		== Pinecil doesn't power on at all ==
	- Check your PSU - it might be faulty		# Check your PSU - it might be faulty
	- Check cable		# Check cable
	- Use different kind of PSU (if you're using a barrel jack one, try a Type-C one, and vice-versa)		# Use different kind of PSU (if you're using a barrel jack one, try a Type-C one, and vice-versa)

	== Pinecil shuts down when connected to a Type-C PSU and trying to request a higher voltage ==		== Pinecil shuts down when connected to a Type-C PSU and trying to request a higher voltage ==

CRImier at 12:38, 17 January 2022

2022-01-17T12:38:12Z

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	This page is work-in-progress and is user-contributed content.		This page is work-in-progress and is user-contributed content.

	Problems possible		= Problems possible =

	- Pinecil doesn't power on at all		== Pinecil doesn't power on at all ==
	- Check your PSU - it might be faulty		- Check your PSU - it might be faulty
	- Check cable		- Check cable
	- Use different kind of PSU (if you're using a barrel jack one, try a Type-C one, and vice-versa)		- Use different kind of PSU (if you're using a barrel jack one, try a Type-C one, and vice-versa)

	- Pinecil shuts down when connected to a Type-C PSU and trying to request a higher voltage (needs a bit more clarification)		== Pinecil shuts down when connected to a Type-C PSU and trying to request a higher voltage ==
			Title needs a bit more clarification
	- Update firmware - factory firmware has quite a few USB-PD problems, which the newer firmwares fix		- Update firmware - factory firmware has quite a few USB-PD problems, which the newer firmwares fix

	- Pinecil randomly resets when touching solder or doing other things		== Pinecil randomly resets when touching solder or doing other things ==
	- Using PinePower or some other non-grounded PSU?		- Using PinePower or some other non-grounded PSU?
	- This is likely to be a "lack of grounding" problem. When using Pinepower, you can unplug the figure-8 AC cable plug (on the back), rotate it 180 degrees and plug it back in - this tends to remedy the problem [https://github.com/Ralim/IronOS/issues/975 (insights)]		- This is likely to be a "lack of grounding" problem. When using Pinepower, you can unplug the figure-8 AC cable plug (on the back), rotate it 180 degrees and plug it back in - this tends to remedy the problem [https://github.com/Ralim/IronOS/issues/975 (insights)]

	- Doesn't power on after applying 24V to the barrel jack		== Doesn't power on after applying 24V to the barrel jack ==
	- The FUSB302 might have gotten damaged and shorted an internal power rail		- The FUSB302 might have gotten damaged and shorted an internal power rail
	- Fix is to use a hot air gun to remove the FUSB from the board. You can leave the iron without the FUSB302 IC, or you can find and buy a replacement.		- Fix is to use a hot air gun to remove the FUSB from the board. You can leave the iron without the FUSB302 IC, or you can find and buy a replacement.
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	- You will still have USB QC support without the FUSB IC, and all the other features will keep working!		- You will still have USB QC support without the FUSB IC, and all the other features will keep working!

	- Pinecil tip heats up too much, starts to glow and [REDACTED]		== Pinecil tip heats up too much, starts to glow and [REDACTED] ==
	If you don't press the + button after plugging power in, does it start glowing?		If you don't press the + button after plugging power in, does it start glowing?
	- If it heats up as soon as you connect power (without button presses), then it's likely a FET failure - the FET can be replaced. by using a hot air station or a soldering iron.		- If it heats up as soon as you connect power (without button presses), then it's likely a FET failure - the FET can be replaced. by using a hot air station or a soldering iron.
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	You will want to replace the tip after it's heated up to the point of glowing, as the surface coating is likely to have gotten compromised.		You will want to replace the tip after it's heated up to the point of glowing, as the surface coating is likely to have gotten compromised.

	Debugging instructions		= Debugging instructions =

	- Screen solder joint debugging		== Screen FPC solder joint debugging ==
	- REDACTED		- REDACTED

			== Checking whether the MCU and main power rails are alive ==
			- DFU mode REDACTED

CRImier at 12:33, 17 January 2022

2022-01-17T12:33:49Z

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	This page is work-in-progress and is user-contributed content.		This page is work-in-progress and is user-contributed content.

	~~Debugging different problems~~		Problems possible

	- Pinecil doesn't power on at all		- Pinecil doesn't power on at all
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	- Pinecil randomly resets when touching solder or doing other things		- Pinecil randomly resets when touching solder or doing other things
	- Using PinePower or some other non-grounded PSU?		- Using PinePower or some other non-grounded PSU?
	- This is likely to be a "lack of grounding" problem. When using Pinepower, you can unplug the figure-8 AC cable plug (on the back), rotate it 180 degrees and plug it back in - this tends to remedy the problem.		- This is likely to be a "lack of grounding" problem. When using Pinepower, you can unplug the figure-8 AC cable plug (on the back), rotate it 180 degrees and plug it back in - this tends to remedy the problem [https://github.com/Ralim/IronOS/issues/975 (insights)]

	- Doesn't power on after applying 24V to the barrel jack		- Doesn't power on after applying 24V to the barrel jack
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	- If it only heats up after pressing the button, this is likely to be bad soldering of the thermocouple amplifier IC caused such behaviour. Resoldering the thermocouple amplifier shoudl fix this problem.		- If it only heats up after pressing the button, this is likely to be bad soldering of the thermocouple amplifier IC caused such behaviour. Resoldering the thermocouple amplifier shoudl fix this problem.
	You will want to replace the tip after it's heated up to the point of glowing, as the surface coating is likely to have gotten compromised.		You will want to replace the tip after it's heated up to the point of glowing, as the surface coating is likely to have gotten compromised.

			Debugging instructions

			- Screen solder joint debugging
			- REDACTED

CRImier at 11:26, 17 January 2022

2022-01-17T11:26:50Z

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			This page is work-in-progress and is user-contributed content.

	Debugging different problems		Debugging different problems

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	- Update firmware - factory firmware has quite a few USB-PD problems, which the newer firmwares fix		- Update firmware - factory firmware has quite a few USB-PD problems, which the newer firmwares fix

	- Pinecil randomly resets when touching solder		- Pinecil randomly resets when touching solder or doing other things
	- Using PinePower or some other grounded PSU?		- Using PinePower or some other non-grounded PSU?
	- This is likely to be a grounding problem.		- This is likely to be a "lack of grounding" problem. When using Pinepower, you can unplug the figure-8 AC cable plug (on the back), rotate it 180 degrees and plug it back in - this tends to remedy the problem.

	- Doesn't power on after applying 24V		- Doesn't power on after applying 24V to the barrel jack
	- The FUSB302 might have gotten damaged and shorted an internal power rail ~~(has verifiably happened before)~~		- The FUSB302 might have gotten damaged and shorted an internal power rail
	- Fix is to use a hot air gun to remove the FUSB from the board. You can leave the iron without the FUSB302 IC, or you can find and buy a replacement.		- Fix is to use a hot air gun to remove the FUSB from the board. You can leave the iron without the FUSB302 IC, or you can find and buy a replacement.
	- Without the FUSB IC present, you will lose USB-PD compatibility - the Type-C jack will not power your Pinecil with a C-to-C cable, or from a PD-capable PSU with attached type-C cable (laptop PSUs)		- Without the FUSB IC present, you will lose USB-PD compatibility - the Type-C jack will not power your Pinecil with a C-to-C cable, or from a PD-capable PSU with attached type-C cable (laptop PSUs)
			- You will still have USB QC support without the FUSB IC, and all the other features will keep working!

	- Pinecil tip heats up too much, starts to glow and [REDACTED]		- Pinecil tip heats up too much, starts to glow and [REDACTED]
	- ~~[REDACTED]~~		If you don't press the + button after plugging power in, does it start glowing?
			- If it heats up as soon as you connect power (without button presses), then it's likely a FET failure - the FET can be replaced. by using a hot air station or a soldering iron.
			- If it only heats up after pressing the button, this is likely to be bad soldering of the thermocouple amplifier IC caused such behaviour. Resoldering the thermocouple amplifier shoudl fix this problem.
			You will want to replace the tip after it's heated up to the point of glowing, as the surface coating is likely to have gotten compromised.

CRImier: Created page with "Debugging different problems - Pinecil doesn't power on at all - Check your PSU - it might be faulty - Check cable - Use different kind of PSU (if you're using a barrel..."

2022-01-17T11:10:15Z

Created page with "Debugging different problems - Pinecil doesn't power on at all - Check your PSU - it might be faulty - Check cable - Use different kind of PSU (if you're using a barrel..."

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Debugging different problems

- Pinecil doesn't power on at all
- Check your PSU - it might be faulty
- Check cable
- Use different kind of PSU (if you're using a barrel jack one, try a Type-C one, and vice-versa)

- Pinecil shuts down when connected to a Type-C PSU and trying to request a higher voltage (needs a bit more clarification)
- Update firmware - factory firmware has quite a few USB-PD problems, which the newer firmwares fix

- Pinecil randomly resets when touching solder
- Using PinePower or some other grounded PSU?
- This is likely to be a grounding problem.

- Doesn't power on after applying 24V
- The FUSB302 might have gotten damaged and shorted an internal power rail (has verifiably happened before)
- Fix is to use a hot air gun to remove the FUSB from the board. You can leave the iron without the FUSB302 IC, or you can find and buy a replacement.
- Without the FUSB IC present, you will lose USB-PD compatibility - the Type-C jack will not power your Pinecil with a C-to-C cable, or from a PD-capable PSU with attached type-C cable (laptop PSUs)

- Pinecil tip heats up too much, starts to glow and [REDACTED]
- [REDACTED]