Talk:PinePhone Hardware Issues - Revision history

Boud: /* Evidence for/against the shim U101 fix / October is the 10th* month, not 11th (without Caesar it would still be the 8th ...)

2024-11-01T00:58:51Z

Evidence for/against the shim U101 fix: October is the *10th* month, not 11th (without Caesar it would still be the 8th ...)

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	== Evidence for/against the shim U101 fix ==		== Evidence for/against the shim U101 fix ==
	; Works for me 2024-11-06		; Works for me 2024-10-06
	I [[User:Earboxer/Shim_U101\|shimmed my U101]] per the advice given here. Based on two days of a small handful of tests, and after [https://codeberg.org/boud/pinephone_hacks/src/branch/main/bug_reporting/bug_status.md having earlier had a variety of audio and non-audio bugs] on my PinePhone v1.2b running [https://wiki.debian.org/Mobian Mobian/trixie], including [https://salsa.debian.org/Mobian-team/devices/pinephone-support/-/issues/27 this difficult-to-reproduce bug], my microphone appears to be working. I now have [https://packages.mobian.org out-of-the-box alsa-ucm-conf 1.2.12-1mobian1] and other packages at the Mobian default, with modem: FLOSS firmware 0.7.2 + ADSP 30.006.30.006. [[User:Boud\|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud\|talk]]) 13:49, 6 October 2024 (UTC)		I [[User:Earboxer/Shim_U101\|shimmed my U101]] per the advice given here. Based on two days of a small handful of tests, and after [https://codeberg.org/boud/pinephone_hacks/src/branch/main/bug_reporting/bug_status.md having earlier had a variety of audio and non-audio bugs] on my PinePhone v1.2b running [https://wiki.debian.org/Mobian Mobian/trixie], including [https://salsa.debian.org/Mobian-team/devices/pinephone-support/-/issues/27 this difficult-to-reproduce bug], my microphone appears to be working. I now have [https://packages.mobian.org out-of-the-box alsa-ucm-conf 1.2.12-1mobian1] and other packages at the Mobian default, with modem: FLOSS firmware 0.7.2 + ADSP 30.006.30.006. [[User:Boud\|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud\|talk]]) 13:49, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
	:However, the out-of-the-box alsa-ucm-conf parameters still give bad audio quality as heard on the remote phone for phone calls "out in the field" as opposed to between people in nearby quiet rooms. [https://codeberg.org/boud/pinephone_hacks/src/branch/main/audio_hacks/Allwinner_A64_PinePhone/VoiceCall.conf This VoiceCall.conf file (commit `cf82dfb455`)], with the microphone U101 shimmed, has worked fine on several real-world tests. [[User:Boud\|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud\|talk]]) 00:52, 1 November 2024 (UTC)		:However, the out-of-the-box alsa-ucm-conf parameters still give bad audio quality as heard on the remote phone for phone calls "out in the field" as opposed to between people in nearby quiet rooms. [https://codeberg.org/boud/pinephone_hacks/src/branch/main/audio_hacks/Allwinner_A64_PinePhone/VoiceCall.conf This VoiceCall.conf file (commit `cf82dfb455`)], with the microphone U101 shimmed, has worked fine on several real-world tests. [[User:Boud\|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud\|talk]]) 00:52, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Boud: /* Evidence for/against the shim U101 fix */ clarify that the main description of the procedure is at User:Earboxer/Shim_U101

2024-11-01T00:55:09Z

Evidence for/against the shim U101 fix: clarify that the main description of the procedure is at User:Earboxer/Shim_U101

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	== Evidence for/against the shim U101 fix ==		== Evidence for/against the shim U101 fix ==
	; Works for me 2024-11-06		; Works for me 2024-11-06
	I shimmed my U101 per the advice given here. Based on two days of a small handful of tests, and after [https://codeberg.org/boud/pinephone_hacks/src/branch/main/bug_reporting/bug_status.md having earlier had a variety of audio and non-audio bugs] on my PinePhone v1.2b running [https://wiki.debian.org/Mobian Mobian/trixie], including [https://salsa.debian.org/Mobian-team/devices/pinephone-support/-/issues/27 this difficult-to-reproduce bug], my microphone appears to be working. I now have [https://packages.mobian.org out-of-the-box alsa-ucm-conf 1.2.12-1mobian1] and other packages at the Mobian default, with modem: FLOSS firmware 0.7.2 + ADSP 30.006.30.006. [[User:Boud\|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud\|talk]]) 13:49, 6 October 2024 (UTC)		I [[User:Earboxer/Shim_U101\|shimmed my U101]] per the advice given here. Based on two days of a small handful of tests, and after [https://codeberg.org/boud/pinephone_hacks/src/branch/main/bug_reporting/bug_status.md having earlier had a variety of audio and non-audio bugs] on my PinePhone v1.2b running [https://wiki.debian.org/Mobian Mobian/trixie], including [https://salsa.debian.org/Mobian-team/devices/pinephone-support/-/issues/27 this difficult-to-reproduce bug], my microphone appears to be working. I now have [https://packages.mobian.org out-of-the-box alsa-ucm-conf 1.2.12-1mobian1] and other packages at the Mobian default, with modem: FLOSS firmware 0.7.2 + ADSP 30.006.30.006. [[User:Boud\|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud\|talk]]) 13:49, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
	:However, the out-of-the-box alsa-ucm-conf parameters still give bad audio quality as heard on the remote phone for phone calls "out in the field" as opposed to between people in nearby quiet rooms. [https://codeberg.org/boud/pinephone_hacks/src/branch/main/audio_hacks/Allwinner_A64_PinePhone/VoiceCall.conf This VoiceCall.conf file (commit `cf82dfb455`)], with the microphone U101 shimmed, has worked fine on several real-world tests. [[User:Boud\|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud\|talk]]) 00:52, 1 November 2024 (UTC)		:However, the out-of-the-box alsa-ucm-conf parameters still give bad audio quality as heard on the remote phone for phone calls "out in the field" as opposed to between people in nearby quiet rooms. [https://codeberg.org/boud/pinephone_hacks/src/branch/main/audio_hacks/Allwinner_A64_PinePhone/VoiceCall.conf This VoiceCall.conf file (commit `cf82dfb455`)], with the microphone U101 shimmed, has worked fine on several real-world tests. [[User:Boud\|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud\|talk]]) 00:52, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Boud: /* Evidence for/against the shim U101 fix */ the shim U101 fix is fine, but the out-of-the-box VoiceCall.conf still has bad settings

2024-11-01T00:53:02Z

Evidence for/against the shim U101 fix: the shim U101 fix is fine, but the out-of-the-box VoiceCall.conf still has bad settings

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	; Works for me 2024-11-06		; Works for me 2024-11-06
	I shimmed my U101 per the advice given here. Based on two days of a small handful of tests, and after [https://codeberg.org/boud/pinephone_hacks/src/branch/main/bug_reporting/bug_status.md having earlier had a variety of audio and non-audio bugs] on my PinePhone v1.2b running [https://wiki.debian.org/Mobian Mobian/trixie], including [https://salsa.debian.org/Mobian-team/devices/pinephone-support/-/issues/27 this difficult-to-reproduce bug], my microphone appears to be working. I now have [https://packages.mobian.org out-of-the-box alsa-ucm-conf 1.2.12-1mobian1] and other packages at the Mobian default, with modem: FLOSS firmware 0.7.2 + ADSP 30.006.30.006. [[User:Boud\|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud\|talk]]) 13:49, 6 October 2024 (UTC)		I shimmed my U101 per the advice given here. Based on two days of a small handful of tests, and after [https://codeberg.org/boud/pinephone_hacks/src/branch/main/bug_reporting/bug_status.md having earlier had a variety of audio and non-audio bugs] on my PinePhone v1.2b running [https://wiki.debian.org/Mobian Mobian/trixie], including [https://salsa.debian.org/Mobian-team/devices/pinephone-support/-/issues/27 this difficult-to-reproduce bug], my microphone appears to be working. I now have [https://packages.mobian.org out-of-the-box alsa-ucm-conf 1.2.12-1mobian1] and other packages at the Mobian default, with modem: FLOSS firmware 0.7.2 + ADSP 30.006.30.006. [[User:Boud\|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud\|talk]]) 13:49, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
			:However, the out-of-the-box alsa-ucm-conf parameters still give bad audio quality as heard on the remote phone for phone calls "out in the field" as opposed to between people in nearby quiet rooms. [https://codeberg.org/boud/pinephone_hacks/src/branch/main/audio_hacks/Allwinner_A64_PinePhone/VoiceCall.conf This VoiceCall.conf file (commit `cf82dfb455`)], with the microphone U101 shimmed, has worked fine on several real-world tests. [[User:Boud\|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud\|talk]]) 00:52, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

	== Speculation about why the shim U101 fix may work ==		== Speculation about why the shim U101 fix may work ==

Boud: /* Speculation about why the shim U101 fix may work */ restructure hypothesis list

2024-10-08T17:52:27Z

Speculation about why the shim U101 fix may work: restructure hypothesis list

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	== Speculation about why the shim U101 fix may work ==		== Speculation about why the shim U101 fix may work ==
	Any proper explanations? Some hypotheses include:		Any proper explanations? Some hypotheses include:
	* sound wave air transmission: the shim pushes the microphone slight higher above the back of the phone in order to better match the hole in the chassis;		* electrical isolation/contacts:
	* electrical isolation/contacts: the shim prevents some weak electrical contact that causes current to go in the wrong direction, or improves a contact that was too weak.		** the shim improves an electrical contact that was too weak (not contacting properly); or
			** prevents some weak electrical contact that causes current to go in the wrong direction.
			* sound wave air transmission:
			** the shim pushes the microphone slight higher above the back of the phone in order to better match the hole in the chassis.
	[[User:Boud\|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud\|talk]]) 13:49, 6 October 2024 (UTC)		[[User:Boud\|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud\|talk]]) 13:49, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

			I've updated the above list based on a matrix chat favouring "improving an electrical contact". [[User:Boud\|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud\|talk]]) 17:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Boud: works for me

2024-10-06T13:49:50Z

works for me

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== Evidence for/against the shim U101 fix ==
; Works for me 2024-11-06
I shimmed my U101 per the advice given here. Based on two days of a small handful of tests, and after [https://codeberg.org/boud/pinephone_hacks/src/branch/main/bug_reporting/bug_status.md having earlier had a variety of audio and non-audio bugs] on my PinePhone v1.2b running [https://wiki.debian.org/Mobian Mobian/trixie], including [https://salsa.debian.org/Mobian-team/devices/pinephone-support/-/issues/27 this difficult-to-reproduce bug], my microphone appears to be working. I now have [https://packages.mobian.org out-of-the-box alsa-ucm-conf 1.2.12-1mobian1] and other packages at the Mobian default, with modem: FLOSS firmware 0.7.2 + ADSP 30.006.30.006. [[User:Boud|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud|talk]]) 13:49, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

== Speculation about why the shim U101 fix may work ==
Any proper explanations? Some hypotheses include:
* sound wave air transmission: the shim pushes the microphone slight higher above the back of the phone in order to better match the hole in the chassis;
* electrical isolation/contacts: the shim prevents some weak electrical contact that causes current to go in the wrong direction, or improves a contact that was too weak.
[[User:Boud|Boud]] ([[User talk:Boud|talk]]) 13:49, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Talk:PinePhone Hardware Issues - Revision history

Boud: /* Evidence for/against the shim U101 fix */ October is the *10th* month, not 11th (without Caesar it would still be the 8th ...)

Boud: /* Evidence for/against the shim U101 fix */ clarify that the main description of the procedure is at User:Earboxer/Shim_U101

Boud: /* Evidence for/against the shim U101 fix */ the shim U101 fix is fine, but the out-of-the-box VoiceCall.conf still has bad settings

Boud: /* Speculation about why the shim U101 fix may work */ restructure hypothesis list

Boud: works for me

Boud: /* Evidence for/against the shim U101 fix / October is the 10th* month, not 11th (without Caesar it would still be the 8th ...)